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**Hungarian names are written using Eastern name order (family name followed by given name) in Hungarian contexts.  But in foreign language contexts (presumably those using Western name order) Western name order is then used for Hungarian names. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_names]
 
**Hungarian names are written using Eastern name order (family name followed by given name) in Hungarian contexts.  But in foreign language contexts (presumably those using Western name order) Western name order is then used for Hungarian names. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_names]
  
=Some Outstanding Issues with Categories=
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=Some Outstanidng Issues with Categories=
 
Background: On Sat April 30, I recategorized pages with the “Pilot Cards” tag as “Characters with Pilot Cards”.  To track which pages I converted, I activated the category page “Characters with Pilot Cards”, with the plans to later replace such with the description from “Pilot Cards”.  I learned afterwards that one can’t move pages to overwrite another.  I then moved “Category: Characters with Pilot Cards” to “Category:Characters with Pilot Cards(temp-delete)” in the hopes to move “Category: Pilot Cards” to “Category: Characters with Pilot Cards”, but that did not solve the issue either.  I did manage to move the talk page for “Category talk: Pilot Cards”.  But “Category: Characters with Pilot Cards” has been locked for six days now.  Plus I am uncertain if move would allow me to overwrite a redirect page that corresponds to a different page.  [FYI: I have now learned it is best to move the category page first before changing category tags.]   
 
Background: On Sat April 30, I recategorized pages with the “Pilot Cards” tag as “Characters with Pilot Cards”.  To track which pages I converted, I activated the category page “Characters with Pilot Cards”, with the plans to later replace such with the description from “Pilot Cards”.  I learned afterwards that one can’t move pages to overwrite another.  I then moved “Category: Characters with Pilot Cards” to “Category:Characters with Pilot Cards(temp-delete)” in the hopes to move “Category: Pilot Cards” to “Category: Characters with Pilot Cards”, but that did not solve the issue either.  I did manage to move the talk page for “Category talk: Pilot Cards”.  But “Category: Characters with Pilot Cards” has been locked for six days now.  Plus I am uncertain if move would allow me to overwrite a redirect page that corresponds to a different page.  [FYI: I have now learned it is best to move the category page first before changing category tags.]   
  

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