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== Past Talk Archive ==
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The archive of previous Talk is at my '''[[/Archive | Talk Archive]]'''
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==Contributions==
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==Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor==
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Eh, it's not like I did any real work. Just background linking and categorizing. I still fail to have the energy to actually look most things up, but I will get there... soon... I promise.... --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]]
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Excuse me Nic, never done this before, but how do I get Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor added to the Canon character's page? She's my late fiance and in Rec guide 12 [[User:Livewire2112|Livewire2112]] ([[User talk:Livewire2112|talk]]) 21:14, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
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:I know that a lot of pages were auto-generated, including the planetary database. What would it take to edit that database to update it for 3067, and even 3130? [[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 12:15, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
 
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::Well, the problem is I don't have the database for 3067 and 3130 :) If you know of a data file (CSV, text file, something) that has owners for those years I'll happily update everythin! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 13:50, 2 April 2007 (CDT)
 
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:::I was kind of alluding to the fact that I would do it (at least for 3067... I'm not paying $40 + S&H or whatever it is for the poster-sized map that is the only complete map for 3130 I've seen). I'm utterly clueless as to what you would need to update it easily, so what would be the best way? [[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 12:01, 9 April 2007 (CDT)
 
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::::The file I used to generate the planetary data is [http://sarna.net/files/download/data/planets/iscs/planall.zip here].  If you can update that file, I can easily re-update the current planets! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:18, 2 December 2007 (CST)
 
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::::Sweet. When I actually have the time, I'll see what I can do with it. --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 14:17, 4 December 2007 (CST)
 
  
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: Hello, Livewire. I am reasonably sure that if the character is canon (I don't have #12 yet), they will be added in some fashion. However, if you want to prime the pump a bit, and are not familiar with wikis, I'd recommend opening a similar character (maybe from an earlier ''Guide'') and starting an article named [[Rebecca Taylor]], copying all the stuff (text & code) over into the new article, changing everything that doesn't pertain and adding what is needed. Some other Editor will be sure to follow behind and correct any mistakes or add needed info. Good luck, and I'll be looking for the article (and the ''Guide'').--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 21:21, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
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Hi Nic. I was looking through the planets that are in the Wiki and noticed that all of them (or at least all the ones I checked) had incorrect coordinates. All of the X and Y coordinates are the same. Looks like it was probably an auto-generation issue, but I wanted to bring it up to see if you would be able to correct it, especially since you have the original data that was used to develop the entries. Thanks a lot! [[User:Bdevoe|Bdevoe]] 17:13, 18 August 2007 (CDT)
 
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: Thanks Bdevoe, I will determine if I can auto-update the coordinates. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:18, 2 December 2007 (CST)
 
  
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: Update: [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=List_of_Clan_Invasion_Kickstarter_Characters&diff=prev&oldid=676150 The process has started], Livewire, thanks to [[User:Dmon|Dmon]].--[[User:Revanche|Revanche]] <sup>([[User_talk:Revanche|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Revanche|contribs]])</sup> 22:07, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
  
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==Vandalism==
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== Potential issue in File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg ==
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[[User:Kittle|Kittle]] mused on her [[User_talk:Kittle|talk]] page that perhaps, given the level of vandalism that we're seeing, that we may want to consider locking the wiki against edits from non-users. I know that [[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]], Nic, and I have spent many hours correcting vandalism. I thought we should just put it out there to at least have the discussion. Thanks. [[User:Bdevoe|Bdevoe]] 12:40, 16 October 2007 (CDT)
 
  
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How does someone get banned? Because [[212.72.56.31]] has made fourteen "edits" and all of them were vandalism. ALL OF THEM. Hes not the only one either, [[201.12.178.33]] has made nearly forty "edits" and ALL OF THEM WERE VANDALISM. [[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]], [[User:Kittle|Kittle]], and [[User:Bdevoe|Bdevoe]] have been the ones who cleaned up most of these idiots' vandalism, I'm sure they agree with me. I think that the major part of the vandalism problem can be fixed if we ban repeat offenders. I don't believe that it is necessary to stop non-users from editing, some of them have made real contributions to the site. I believe that after a certain amount of vandalism that individuals should be banned, regardless of whether or not they are members. I might be more frustrated by it than most people since I have obsessive compulsive disorder, but that doesn't make it any easier to clean up after their juvenile behavior. To the contrary, I spend too many hours fixing minor grammar and spelling errors as it is. Why should I have to worry about vandalism as well?
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--[[User:DragonoftheRust|DragonoftheRust]] 17:04, 22 October 2007 (CDT)
 
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:I placed a one-week ban on those two IPs, with account creation prevention. If it stops at that, so be it. It doesn't I'll make them permabans. The reason that bannings haven't been happening over this is because of the fact that Revanche is on military duty, Nic is busy and I was MIA for a good many months (long story, don't ask). There wasn't anyone else with the power to ban people. Since I'm back, for the time being, I'll try to keep an eye on things. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 02:37, 23 October 2007 (CDT)
 
  
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::I know that we did see quite a few consistent nonsensical vandalism from a few IPs there for a while, but I would say that out of the tens of articles we corrected, there were many other IPs involved in the process. It seems almost intentional, but I can't begin to reason what the purpose is - the pages vandalized seem random, but there have been multiple edits on the same pages over and over. The actual content seems generated somehow - but I just can't seem to figure out what purpose it serves for the vandal. Regardless, I don't think that banning just those two IPs will do much to stem the tide, but we'll just keep doing what we do. :) [[User:24.9.228.69|24.9.228.69]] 11:44, 24 October 2007 (CDT) (above added by [[User:Bdevoe|Bdevoe]] 11:45, 24 October 2007 (CDT)).
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While reviwing images without category, I found out this one File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg, which had no category nor information unlike the rest. I remember you have the "macro" that creates them and prepares them and adds a category because I asked this to help clean the [https://www.sarna.net/wiki/Special:UncategorizedFiles "Uncategorized Files"] page. No idea why this one got nuts. I added the information. Maybe it is because of the nice german spelling, but it is not the only planet like this. Hope you can review and thanks in advance!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:23, 5 November 2021 (EDT)
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:::If you find you're accidentally logged out at the time, you can always replace <nowiki>[[User:your IP address|]] with [[User:your user name|]]</nowiki> instead. Less typing that way. :)
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: Perfect thanks!  I had to hand-upload that file, because the umlaut caused issues with the initial batch.  I think the rest were OK.  Appreciate you added the category! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 21:07, 8 November 2021 (EST)
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:::And yeah, I agree that it won't stem the flow much. As I said, it's highly likely that this is being done by a botnet; they typically have a myriad of IP addresses at their disposal so banning single addresses only stops the current spree. VandalBots are generally left on for an extended period of time, then the creator checks to see if they had an impact. If they didn't, they sometimes turn them off… or look for easier targets (be they another page on this wiki or another wiki altogether.) --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 22:39, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
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:: No problem. Thanks to you for the macro and all other things you do for this page!--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 11:04, 9 November 2021 (EST)
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::::Let's continue this talk on [[BattleTechWiki:Administrators]] [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:18, 2 December 2007 (CST)
 
  
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== Help with Uncategorized files ==
  
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Hi Nik, I've seen that the file with only have this category: [[:Category:Missing copyright information]] do not appear as Uncategorized... unfortunately, there are a lot of files with miss this but also other information and it is quite complex to find which ones only have the missing copyright... as those ones are missing some category else... Is there any way for you to help identify them?--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 08:21, 14 January 2022 (EST)
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Due to circumstances beyond my control I was without access to the Internet for a good few months. Couple that with TAFE and such, and I've been strapped for time. I think I can start making time for Sarna again. --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 23:18, 22 October 2007 (CDT)
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: Hey Pserratv!  Sorry I'm not fully following.  You're looking for files that are *only* missing Copyright, but don't have any other categories assigned?  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 14:59, 17 January 2022 (EST)
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:Welcome back!  My work commitment has left me with little time for other projects lately, so I've been only reverting vandalism as I've seen it; not much else.  Great to have you contribute whenever you can! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:18, 2 December 2007 (CST)
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::Yes Nick, that it is. I want to see which images are missing a real category as missing copyright is a "commonplace" not a category for me. It is good to know they are missing copyright, but for me it is even more to know which ones are missing a place like being an image of a Free Worlds League character...--[[User:Pserratv|Pserratv]] ([[User talk:Pserratv|talk]]) 05:07, 19 January 2022 (EST)
  
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==Bug with Module:LuaTest==
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Hi Nic,<br>
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[[Module:LuaTest]] shows up as a blue link in [[Special:LonelyPages]], but the page appears to be deleted. Adding it to [[User:Talvin/Project_Orphanage#Technical_Pages]] shows it as a red link, and it does not disappear from the Orphans when that cache refreshes overnight.  This is hardly a showstopper bug or even close, but it's odd. [[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 10:57, 27 February 2022 (EST)
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: Strange, I couldn't find any way to make it disappear either.  Must be a side-effect of it being a LUA module.  Since it's not affecting anything else (that I can tell) I'll leave it for now, but if there's a pattern of this happening I can dig into it more.  Thanks for bringing to my attention! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 22:26, 22 June 2022 (EDT)
  
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==Mistitled Articles==
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How does one get rid of a mistitled article? I recently created a new article for the [[Hachiman (Combat Vehicle)]] only to notice that I had unintentionally created a article under the heading of [[Hachiman (Combat Vehicle]]. I recreated the article under the proper title, but I don't know how to get rid of the old article! Any advice you have would be appreciated. --[[User:DragonoftheRust|DragonoftheRust]] 15:57, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
 
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:This one is rather simple. By default it's not possible to delete anything on MediaWiki unless your account has the SysOp flag set (this is to limit the damage that vandals and/or inexperienced editors can cause.) Add the {{tl|deletion}} template to it and one of the SysOps will get around to deleting the offending article. In some cases we'll nuke it without it having the deletion template; almost universally in cut-and-dried cases (like this one). --[[User:Xoid|Xoid]] 03:42, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
 
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::The SysOps regularly check the articles flagged for deletion -- simply add the template and we'll get to it when we review the list! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:18, 2 December 2007 (CST)
 
  
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[[:Category:Spanish language products]] is a double redirect, and it looks like it is locked up in the change propagation process since 26 March 2022. It appears to need deletion.--[[User:Talvin|Talvin]] ([[User talk:Talvin|talk]]) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (EDT)
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: Thanks. I had to set <code>$smwgChangePropagationProtection = false;</code> first, then remove the page.  <code>$smwgChangePropagationProtection</code> is now back to <code>true</code>. [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] ([[User talk:Nicjansma|talk]]) 22:32, 22 June 2022 (EDT)
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I'm thinking that we may want to add a category for those items that are sort of general in-character knowledge (like [[MechWarrior (pilot)]] or [[C-bill]]). They're not really part of any existing category. There may be other categories as well ('''Game Mechanics''' for instance) that may be needed to properly categorize things. I think I'm one of the few to really run across this issue as most of my contributions have been in the "humanities", so to speak, of the Inner Sphere, rather than on the engineering elements ('Mechs and Vehicles). The only thing I can think of for a category is '''Milieu''', which is probably too "William F. Buckley" for most people. :) I don't have any specific recommendations, so perhaps someone else does. Thanks! [[User:Bdevoe|Bdevoe]] 12:14, 24 October 2007 (CDT)
 
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: I agree with what you're saying.  'Game Mechanics' sounds appropriate, or maybe 'Terms' or something? [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:18, 2 December 2007 (CST)
 
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[http://sarna.net/wiki/index.php?title=Wasp&diff=next&oldid=22673 This diff] concerns me. The resulting code from those extra lines is <pre><ul>
 
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:From what I can tell, any blank line in a list (either # or *), restarts the list. I think this is just by-design for MediaWiki.  I didn't come up with anything in searching for how to change this behavior, but I agree it's frustrating.  Any ideas? [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:18, 2 December 2007 (CST)
 
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== Hello from Wikia==
 
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Hi There, I wanted to reach out and compliment your wiki. Its pretty awesome. I manage the [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Gaming Gaming division at Wikia] and would love to talk to you about the future of this wiki. Wikia has become the home for lots of independently run gaming wikis (i.e [http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/index.php/Wikia_Move Paragon Wiki]) recently as we provide free hosting/bandwidth, product & technical support, advanced SPAM and vandal fighting tools, as well as marketing support. I would love to tell you more about us if you are open to a conversation.  On a side note, I noticed you work at Msft. I worked there for 4 years (mostly in the XBOX and Games for Windows Groups).  You can email me at angie at wikia.com or leave a message on [http://www.wikia.com/wiki/User:Angies my talk page] [[User:Angies|Angies]] 13:52, 19 November 2007 (CST)
 
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:Greeting and thanks!  FYI there is already a [http://battletech.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page BattleTech project at wikia] as well.  We were trying to work with them a while back to coordinate (or merge) work.  I don't see much activity over there any more.  [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:18, 2 December 2007 (CST)
 
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I just edited [[Lucien Davion]], and when I clicked "save page," I was prompted to complete an addition problem because I inserted a new external link. 1. I was signed in and 2. The "external link" I added was apparently the stub template. On another note, the text of the section edit links is quite large (it seems to be matching the section its attached to). I'm not sure if that change was intentional or not. --[[User:Scaletail|Scaletail]] 15:31, 30 November 2007 (CST)
 
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: RE: Captcha on adding a URL when logged in, a new version of the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ConfirmEdit ConfirmEdit] extension changed the defaults. I've modified it so logged in users don't get the captcha on URL addition.  Thanks for pointing this out! [[User:Nicjansma|Nicjansma]] 17:18, 2 December 2007 (CST)
 
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Hi there, iv been trolling about the CBT community on the net for some time, ive played a bit, but i pore over the books and pretty much everything that goes online regarding the CBT universe. Seeing as how i have insomnia id like to contribute some of my considerable amount of time to giving back to this cause. But im not so sure as to how i can go about this, any direction would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Master Of Disaster [[User:70.91.143.201|70.91.143.201]] 19:26, 6 December 2007 (CST)
 

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Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor[edit]

Excuse me Nic, never done this before, but how do I get Rebecca "Spreadsheet" Taylor added to the Canon character's page? She's my late fiance and in Rec guide 12 Livewire2112 (talk) 21:14, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Hello, Livewire. I am reasonably sure that if the character is canon (I don't have #12 yet), they will be added in some fashion. However, if you want to prime the pump a bit, and are not familiar with wikis, I'd recommend opening a similar character (maybe from an earlier Guide) and starting an article named Rebecca Taylor, copying all the stuff (text & code) over into the new article, changing everything that doesn't pertain and adding what is needed. Some other Editor will be sure to follow behind and correct any mistakes or add needed info. Good luck, and I'll be looking for the article (and the Guide).--Revanche (talk|contribs) 21:21, 12 May 2021 (EDT)
Update: The process has started, Livewire, thanks to Dmon.--Revanche (talk|contribs) 22:07, 12 May 2021 (EDT)

Potential issue in File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg[edit]

Hi Nik,

While reviwing images without category, I found out this one File:Götterdämmerung (system) 3151.svg, which had no category nor information unlike the rest. I remember you have the "macro" that creates them and prepares them and adds a category because I asked this to help clean the "Uncategorized Files" page. No idea why this one got nuts. I added the information. Maybe it is because of the nice german spelling, but it is not the only planet like this. Hope you can review and thanks in advance!--Pserratv (talk) 08:23, 5 November 2021 (EDT)

Perfect thanks! I had to hand-upload that file, because the umlaut caused issues with the initial batch. I think the rest were OK. Appreciate you added the category! Nicjansma (talk) 21:07, 8 November 2021 (EST)
No problem. Thanks to you for the macro and all other things you do for this page!--Pserratv (talk) 11:04, 9 November 2021 (EST)

Help with Uncategorized files[edit]

Hi Nik, I've seen that the file with only have this category: Category:Missing copyright information do not appear as Uncategorized... unfortunately, there are a lot of files with miss this but also other information and it is quite complex to find which ones only have the missing copyright... as those ones are missing some category else... Is there any way for you to help identify them?--Pserratv (talk) 08:21, 14 January 2022 (EST)

Hey Pserratv! Sorry I'm not fully following. You're looking for files that are *only* missing Copyright, but don't have any other categories assigned? Nicjansma (talk) 14:59, 17 January 2022 (EST)
Yes Nick, that it is. I want to see which images are missing a real category as missing copyright is a "commonplace" not a category for me. It is good to know they are missing copyright, but for me it is even more to know which ones are missing a place like being an image of a Free Worlds League character...--Pserratv (talk) 05:07, 19 January 2022 (EST)

Bug with Module:LuaTest[edit]

Hi Nic,
Module:LuaTest shows up as a blue link in Special:LonelyPages, but the page appears to be deleted. Adding it to User:Talvin/Project_Orphanage#Technical_Pages shows it as a red link, and it does not disappear from the Orphans when that cache refreshes overnight. This is hardly a showstopper bug or even close, but it's odd. Talvin (talk) 10:57, 27 February 2022 (EST)

Strange, I couldn't find any way to make it disappear either. Must be a side-effect of it being a LUA module. Since it's not affecting anything else (that I can tell) I'll leave it for now, but if there's a pattern of this happening I can dig into it more. Thanks for bringing to my attention! Nicjansma (talk) 22:26, 22 June 2022 (EDT)

Looks like a Bug.[edit]

Category:Spanish language products is a double redirect, and it looks like it is locked up in the change propagation process since 26 March 2022. It appears to need deletion.--Talvin (talk) 10:15, 14 June 2022 (EDT)

Thanks. I had to set $smwgChangePropagationProtection = false; first, then remove the page. $smwgChangePropagationProtection is now back to true. Nicjansma (talk) 22:32, 22 June 2022 (EDT)

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