Editing Talk:Far Country
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Line 28: :::If the publishers can retcon as they see fit, then what's the point? Nothing is set and anything goes just because they decide to change their minds? It's fictional, so why not establish a concrete set of rules and the start and not deviate from them. It is too confusing for fans and developers alike to continually change things. The lack of sentient aliens is a cardinal rule in Battletech. It was always meant to be a humans-only universe. I understand correcting errata, but the basic premises must remain concrete. :::If the publishers can retcon as they see fit, then what's the point? Nothing is set and anything goes just because they decide to change their minds? It's fictional, so why not establish a concrete set of rules and the start and not deviate from them. It is too confusing for fans and developers alike to continually change things. The lack of sentient aliens is a cardinal rule in Battletech. It was always meant to be a humans-only universe. I understand correcting errata, but the basic premises must remain concrete. − ::::There's a difference between "can" and "do." The whole point of the Line Developer/Fact Checker system that I explained at length is to make sure the core tenets of the setting stay intact and prevent accidental or deliberate, excessive changes to some core feature of the setting. Far Country was written in an era when such safeties were not in place and thus we're stuck with it - I'd point out, though, that Far Country was written when Weisman was still actively participating in the writing and reviewing of BattleTech. Keep that in mind when trying to say what he had in mind for the setting. --[[User:Cray|Cray]] 10:39, 9 February 2009 (PST) + ::::There's a difference between "can" and "do." The whole point of the Line Developer/Fact Checker system that I explained at length is to make sure the core tenets of the setting stay intact and prevent accidental or deliberate, excessive changes to some core feature of the setting. Far Country was written in an era when such safeties were not in place and thus we're stuck with it - I'd point out, though, that Far Country was written when Weissman was still actively participating in the writing and reviewing of BattleTech. Keep that in mind when trying to say what he had in mind for the setting. --[[User:Cray|Cray]] 10:39, 9 February 2009 (PST) − ::::To expand on what Weisman did, it's also worth pointing out that he tried to create a setting that involved latter day knights in giant robots in a future feudal society, where mechs were only being repaired with salvaging and shrinking stockpiles of supplies. What he put into practice in TRO:3025 and the House Sourcebooks of the 1986-1988 period was a setting where most planets in the Free Worlds, Lyran Commonwealth, and Federated Suns were run by representative democracies; those planets had huge, wealthy, literate populations with advanced technology; and 'mechs were being built by the hundreds (for armies far too small for the populations). Continuity issues that date to Weissman's period are still bedeviling writers to this day. Far Country is no different - aliens in an alien-free setting. --[[User:Cray|Cray]] 10:39, 9 February 2009 (PST) + ::::To expand on what Weissman did, it's also worth pointing out that he tried to create a setting that involved latter day knights in giant robots in a future feudal society, where mechs were only being repaired with salvaging and shrinking stockpiles of supplies. What he put into practice in TRO:3025 and the House Sourcebooks of the 1986-1988 period was a setting where most planets in the Free Worlds, Lyran Commonwealth, and Federated Suns were run by representative democracies; those planets had huge, wealthy, literate populations with advanced technology; and 'mechs were being built by the hundreds (for armies far too small for the populations). Continuity issues that date to Weissman's period are still bedeviling writers to this day. Far Country is no different - aliens in an alien-free setting. --[[User:Cray|Cray]] 10:39, 9 February 2009 (PST) :I am not going to start an edit war; I have better things to do with my time. While I still maintain that I am correct, I would suggest, as a compromise, to call Far Country neither canonical nor apocryphal while still leaving in the comment left by a previous author that "many fans feel [the novel] should have no place in the fictional BattleTech universe." (The preceding unsigned comment was made by User 67.171.228.113 on 21:31, 8 February 2009) :I am not going to start an edit war; I have better things to do with my time. While I still maintain that I am correct, I would suggest, as a compromise, to call Far Country neither canonical nor apocryphal while still leaving in the comment left by a previous author that "many fans feel [the novel] should have no place in the fictional BattleTech universe." (The preceding unsigned comment was made by User 67.171.228.113 on 21:31, 8 February 2009)
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:::If the publishers can retcon as they see fit, then what's the point? Nothing is set and anything goes just because they decide to change their minds? It's fictional, so why not establish a concrete set of rules and the start and not deviate from them. It is too confusing for fans and developers alike to continually change things. The lack of sentient aliens is a cardinal rule in Battletech. It was always meant to be a humans-only universe. I understand correcting errata, but the basic premises must remain concrete. | :::If the publishers can retcon as they see fit, then what's the point? Nothing is set and anything goes just because they decide to change their minds? It's fictional, so why not establish a concrete set of rules and the start and not deviate from them. It is too confusing for fans and developers alike to continually change things. The lack of sentient aliens is a cardinal rule in Battletech. It was always meant to be a humans-only universe. I understand correcting errata, but the basic premises must remain concrete. | ||
| − | ::::There's a difference between "can" and "do." The whole point of the Line Developer/Fact Checker system that I explained at length is to make sure the core tenets of the setting stay intact and prevent accidental or deliberate, excessive changes to some core feature of the setting. Far Country was written in an era when such safeties were not in place and thus we're stuck with it - I'd point out, though, that Far Country was written when | + | ::::There's a difference between "can" and "do." The whole point of the Line Developer/Fact Checker system that I explained at length is to make sure the core tenets of the setting stay intact and prevent accidental or deliberate, excessive changes to some core feature of the setting. Far Country was written in an era when such safeties were not in place and thus we're stuck with it - I'd point out, though, that Far Country was written when Weissman was still actively participating in the writing and reviewing of BattleTech. Keep that in mind when trying to say what he had in mind for the setting. --[[User:Cray|Cray]] 10:39, 9 February 2009 (PST) |
| − | ::::To expand on what | + | ::::To expand on what Weissman did, it's also worth pointing out that he tried to create a setting that involved latter day knights in giant robots in a future feudal society, where mechs were only being repaired with salvaging and shrinking stockpiles of supplies. What he put into practice in TRO:3025 and the House Sourcebooks of the 1986-1988 period was a setting where most planets in the Free Worlds, Lyran Commonwealth, and Federated Suns were run by representative democracies; those planets had huge, wealthy, literate populations with advanced technology; and 'mechs were being built by the hundreds (for armies far too small for the populations). Continuity issues that date to Weissman's period are still bedeviling writers to this day. Far Country is no different - aliens in an alien-free setting. --[[User:Cray|Cray]] 10:39, 9 February 2009 (PST) |
:I am not going to start an edit war; I have better things to do with my time. While I still maintain that I am correct, I would suggest, as a compromise, to call Far Country neither canonical nor apocryphal while still leaving in the comment left by a previous author that "many fans feel [the novel] should have no place in the fictional BattleTech universe." (The preceding unsigned comment was made by User 67.171.228.113 on 21:31, 8 February 2009) | :I am not going to start an edit war; I have better things to do with my time. While I still maintain that I am correct, I would suggest, as a compromise, to call Far Country neither canonical nor apocryphal while still leaving in the comment left by a previous author that "many fans feel [the novel] should have no place in the fictional BattleTech universe." (The preceding unsigned comment was made by User 67.171.228.113 on 21:31, 8 February 2009) | ||